The video has once again been removed proving that having another opinion in America is no longer allowed. These physicians stated that they have been using hyrdroxychloroquine, zinc, and a z-pack and all of their patients have fully recovered. You have to ask yourself why Youtube, Facebook, and other social media platforms are hiding that information from the public and come to your own conclusions.
You can currently watch the video here"
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/ but I'm not sure how long the censors of America will allow it to remain.
Americas frontline doctors SCOTUS press conference from Simon Finigan on Vimeo.
Transcript:
Congressman Norman: (00:00)
… I’ll turn it over.
Simone Gold: (00:01)
Thank you. Thank you so much congressmen. So we’re here because we feel as
though the American people have not heard from all the expertise that’s out
there all across our country. We do have some experts speaking, but there’s
lots and lots of experts across the country. So some of us decided to get
together. We’re America’s Frontline Doctors. We’re here only to help American
patients and the American nation heal. We have a lot of information to share.
Americans are riveted and captured by fear at the moment. We are not held down
by the virus as much as we’re being held down by the spider web of fear. That
spiderweb is all around us and it’s constricting us and it’s draining the
lifeblood of the American people, American society, and American economy.
Simone Gold: (00:53)
This does not make sense. COVID-19 is a virus that exists in essentially two
phases. There’s the early phase disease, and there’s the late phase disease. In
the early phase either before you get the virus or early, when you’ve gotten
the virus, if you’ve gotten the virus, there’s treatment. That’s what we’re
here to tell you. We’re going to talk about that this afternoon. You can find
it on America’s Frontline Doctors, there’s many other sites that are streaming
it live on Facebook. But we implore you to hear this because this message has
been silenced. There are many thousands of physicians who have been silenced
for telling the American people the good news about the situation, that we can
manage the virus carefully and intelligently, but we cannot live with this
spider web of fear that’s constricting our country.
Simone Gold: (01:45)
So we’re going to hear now from various positions. Some are going to talk to
you about what the lockdown has done to young, to older, to businesses, to the
economy, and how we can get ourselves out of the cycle of fear. Dr. Hamilton.
Dr. Bob Hamilton: (02:03)
Thank you, Simone. And thank you all for being here today. I’m Dr. Bob
Hamilton. I’m a pediatrician from Santa Monica, California. I’ve been in
private practice there for 36 years. And today I have good news for you. The
good news is the children as a general rule are taking this virus very, very
well. Few are getting infected. Those who are getting infected are being
hospitalized in low numbers. And fortunately the mortality rate of children is
about one fifth of 1%. So kids are tolerating the infection very frequently,
but are actually asymptomatic.
Dr. Bob Hamilton: (02:38)
I also want to say that children are not the drivers of this pandemic. People
were worried about, initially, if children were going to actually be the ones
to push the infection along. The very opposite is happening. Kids are
tolerating it very well, they’re not passing it on to their parents, they’re
not passing it onto their teachers. Dr. Mark Woolhouse from Scotland, who is a
pediatric infectious disease specialist and epidemiologist said the following.
He said, “There has not been one documented case of COVID being transferred
from a student to a teacher in the world.” In the world.
Dr. Bob Hamilton: (03:19)
I think that is important that all of us who are here today realize that our
kids are not really the ones who are driving the infection. It is being driven
by older individuals. And yes, we can send the kids back to school I think
without fear. And this is the big issue right now, as Congressman Norman
alluded to, this is the really important thing we need to do. We need to
normalize the lives of our children. How do we do that? We do that by getting
them back in the classroom. And the good news is they’re not driving this
infection at all. Yes, we can use security measures. Yes, we can be careful.
I’m all for that. We all are. But I think the important thing is we need to not
act out of fear. We need to act out of science. We need to do it. We need to
get it done.
Dr. Bob Hamilton: (04:07)
Finally, the barrier, and I hate to say this, but the barrier to getting our
kids back in school is not going to be the science, it’s going to be the
national unions, the teachers union, the National Education Association, other
groups who are going to demand money. And listen, I think that it’s fine to
give people money for PPE and different things in the classroom. But some of
their demands are really ridiculous. They’re talking about, where I’m from in
California, the UTLA, which is United Teachers Union of Los Angeles, is
demanding that we defund the police. What does that have to do with education?
They’re demanding that they stop or they shut all private charter schools, privately
funded charter schools. These are the schools that are actually getting the
kids educated.
Dr. Bob Hamilton: (04:59)
So clearly there are going to be barriers. The barriers will not be science.
There will not be barriers for the sake of the children. That’s going to be for
the sake of the adults, the teachers, and everybody else, and for the union. So
that’s where we need to focus our efforts and fight back. So thank you all for
being here and let’s get our kids back in school.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (05:27)
Hello, I’m Dr. Stella Immanuel. I’m a primary care physician in Houston, Texas.
I actually went to medical school in West Africa, Nigeria, where I took care of
malaria patients, treated them with hydroxychloroquine and stuff like that. So
I’m actually used to these medications. I’m here because I have personally
treated over 350 patients with COVID. Patients that have diabetes, patients
that have high blood pressure, patients that have asthma, old people … I think
my oldest patient is 92 … 87 year olds. And the result has been the same. I put
them on hydroxychloroquine, I put them on zinc, I put them on Zithromax, and
they’re all well.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (06:12)
For the past few months, after taking care of over 350 patients, we’ve not lost
one. Not a diabetic, not a somebody with high blood pressure, not somebody who
asthma, not an old person. We’ve not lost one patient. And on top of that, I’ve
put myself, my staff, and many doctors that I know on hydroxychloroquine for
prevention, because by the very mechanism of action, it works early and as a
prophylaxis. We see patients, 10 to 15 COVID patients, everyday. We give them
breathing treatments. We only wear surgical mask. None of us has gotten sick.
It works.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (06:46)
So right now, I came here to Washington DC to say, America, nobody needs to
die. The study that made me start using hydroxychloroquine was a study that
they did under the NIH in 2005 that say it works. Recently, I was doing some
research about a patient that had hiccups and I found out that they even did a
recent study in the NIH, which is our National Institute … that is the National
… NIH, what? National Institute of Health. They actually had a study and go
look it up. Type hiccups and COVID, you will see it. They treated a patient
that had hiccups with hydroxychloroquine and it proved that hiccups is a
symptom of COVID. So if the NIH knows that treating the patient would
hydroxychloroquine proves that hiccup is a symptom of COVID, then they
definitely know the hydroxychloroquine works.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (07:42)
I’m upset. Why I’m upset is that I see people that cannot breathe. I see
parents walk in, I see diabetic sit in my office knowing that this is a death
sentence and they can’t breathe. And I hug them and I tell them, “It’s going to
be okay. You’re going to live.” And we treat them and they leave. None has
died. So if some fake science, some person sponsored by all these fake pharma
companies comes out say, “We’ve done studies and they found out that it doesn’t
work.” I can tell you categorically it’s fixed science. I want to know who is
sponsoring that study. I want to know who is behind it because there is no way
I can treat 350 patients and counting and nobody is dead and they all did
better.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (08:21)
I know you’re going to tell me that you treated 20 people, 40 people, and it
didn’t work. I’m a true testimony. So I came here to Washington DC to tell
America nobody needs to get sick. This virus has a cure. It is called
hydroxychloroquine, zinc, and Zithromax. I know you people want to talk about a
mask. Hello? You don’t need mask. There is a cure. I know they don’t want to
open schools. No, you don’t need people to be locked down. There is prevention
and there is a cure.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (08:48)
And let me tell you something, all you fake doctors out there that tell me,
“Yeah. I want a double blinded study.” I just tell you, quit sounding like a
computer, double blinded, double blinded. I don’t know whether your chips are
malfunctioning, but I’m a real doctor. I have radiologists, we have plastic
surgeons, we have neurosurgeons, like Sanjay Gupta saying, “Yeah, it doesn’t
work and it causes heart disease.” Let me ask you Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Hear me.
Have you ever seen a COVID patient? Have you ever treated anybody with
hydroxychloroquine and they died from heart disease? When you do, come and talk
to me because I sit down in my clinic every day and I see these patients walk
in everyday scared to death. I see people driving two, three hours to my clinic
because some ER doctor is scared of the Texas board or they’re scared of
something, and they will not prescribe medication to these people.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (09:35)
I tell all of you doctors that are sitting down and watching Americans die. You’re
like the good Nazi … the good one, the good Germans that watched Jews get
killed and you did not speak up. If they come after me, they threaten me.
They’ve threatened to … I mean, I’ve gotten all kinds of threats. Or they’re
going to report me to the bots. I say, you know what? I don’t care. I’m not
going to let Americans die. And if this is the hill where I get nailed on, I
will get nailed on it. I don’t care. You can report me to the bots, you can
kill me, you can do whatever, but I’m not going to let Americans die.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (10:09)
And today I’m here to say it, that America, there is a cure for COVID. All this
foolishness does not need to happen. There is a cure for COVID. There is a cure
for COVID is called hydroxychloroquine. It’s called zinc. It’s called
Zithromax. And it is time for the grassroots to wake up and say, “No, we’re not
going to take this any longer. We’re not going to die.” Because let me tell you
something, when somebody is dead, they are dead. They’re not coming back tomorrow
to have an argument. They are not come back tomorrow to discuss the double
blinded study and the data. All of you doctors that are waiting for data, if
six months down the line you actually found out that this data shows that this
medication works, how about your patients that have died? You want a double
blinded study where people are dying? It’s unethical. So guys, we don’t need to
die. There is a cure for COVID.
Simone Gold: (11:02)
My gosh. Dr. Immanuelle also known as warrior. Before I introduce the next
guest, I just want to say that I wish all doctors that are listening to this
bring that kind of passion to their patients. And the study that Dr. Immanuel
was referring to is in Virology, which talks about a SARS viral epidemic that
affects the lungs that came from China. And they didn’t know what would work.
The study showed that chloroquine would work. It sounds exactly like it could
have been written three months ago, but in fact, that’s study in Virology,
which was published by the NIH, the National Institute of Health when Dr.
Anthony Fauci was the director. Again, the official publication of the NIH,
Virology, 15 years ago showed that chloroquine … we use hydroxychloroquine,
it’s the same … little safer … works. They proved this 15 years ago when we got
this novel coronavirus, which is not that novel, it’s 78% similar to the prior-
Simone Gold: (12:03)
… coronavirus, which is not that novel. It’s 78% similar to the prior version.
The COV-1, not surprisingly. It works. I’m now going to introduce our next
speaker. Sorry. I forgot to say your name. Sorry.
Dr. Dan Erickson: (12:12)
That’s all right. Dr. Dan Erickson, Dr. Gold asked me to talk about the
lockdown, how effective they were and do that cause anything nonfinancial? They
always talk about the financial, but you have to realize that lockdown, we
haven’t taken a $21 trillion economy and locked it down. So when you lock it
down, it causes public health issues. Our suicide hotlines are up 600%, our
spousal abuse. Different areas of alcoholism are all on the rise. These are
public health problems from a financial lockdown. So we have to be clear on
that fact that there is, it’s not like you just lock it down and have
consequences to people’s jobs. They also have consequences, health consequences
at home. So we’re talking about having a little more of a measured approach, a
consistent approach. If we have another spike coming in cold and flu season,
let’s do something that’s sustainable.
Dr. Dan Erickson: (13:13)
What’s sustainable. Well we can socially distance and wear some masks, but we
can also open the schools and open businesses. So this measured approach I’m
talking about, isn’t made up, it’s going on in Sweden and their deaths are
about 564 per million. UK, full lockdown, 600 deaths per million. So we’re
seeing that the lockdown aren’t decreasing significantly, the amount of deaths
per million. Some of their Nordic neighbors have less deaths for a variety of
reasons, I don’t have time to go into today. So what, my quick message here in
a minute or two is just that we need to take an approach that’s sustainable. A
sustainable approach is slowing things down, opening up schools, opening up
businesses. And then we can allow the people to have their independence and
their personal responsibility to choose to wear masks and socially distance, as
opposed to putting edicts on them, kind of controlling them. Let’s empower them
with data and let them study what other countries have done and make their own
decision. That’s what I’d like to share. Thank you.
Speaker 1: (14:28)
Are there any questions?
Simone Gold: (14:29)
Are there any questions?
Speaker 2: (14:32)
You guys, we’re so excited I’m from South Dakota? You might have heard.
Simone Gold: (14:36)
Yes.
Speaker 2: (14:38)
I’m so glad you guys are preaching this message.
Simone Gold: (14:39)
You know, South Dakota did something interesting. It’s interesting that you’re
from there. So the governor did not restrict access to hydroxychloroquine.
Speaker 2: (14:46)
We know. [crosstalk 00:02:48].
Simone Gold: (14:49)
Right. And you were, I believe you were the only state in the union that did
that. And there’s been studies out there that attempt to show that it doesn’t
work. They’re inaccurate because they’re given at the time, the wrong dose, the
wrong patient either too much or a long time. So South Dakota did better
because it had access to hydroxychloroquine. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: (15:06)
Okay. So if someone we love does get sick with COVID and you said the word
hydro, or however you say it, it’s restricted. How do we get access to that?
Simone Gold: (15:16)
Yeah. That’s the number one question we’re all asked every day. I want you to
know that you’re not alone. I’ve had many congressmen ask me, how can I get it?
So the congressmen can’t get it, it’s tough luck for the average American Joe
getting it. It’s very difficult. You have to overcome a few hurdles. Your
doctor has to have read the science with a critical eye and have eliminated the
junk science. Many studies have been retracted as you know, and number two, the
pharmacist has to not restrict it. Many states have empowered their pharmacists
to not honor physician prescription. That’s never happened before. That
interferes with the doctor patient relationship where the patient talks to the
doctor, honestly, and the doctor answers the patient honestly has been
violated.
Simone Gold: (15:55)
So you have a very difficult time as the average American. Some of the
information we’ll share later this afternoon is to show the mortality rates in
countries where it’s not restricted and the mortality rates where it is
restricted. So I have friends all over the world now because of this. And in
Indonesia, you can just buy it over the counter. It’s in the vitamin section.
And I’m here to tell the American people that you could buy it over the counter
in Iran. Because the leaders in Iran, the mullahs in Iran, think that they
should have more freedom than Americans. I have a problem with that. My
colleagues have problems with that. We don’t like to watch patients die.
Julie: (16:26)
So when people have problems, they should be picking up the phone, they should
be calling their state and their federal representatives and senators and say,
we are the American people.
Speaker 1: (16:42)
Let me say one thing [crosstalk 00:16:46].
Julie: (16:45)
You guys, we need the public to be.
Speaker 1: (16:49)
Thank you. Thank you, Julie. That is exactly right. If you hear what you’re,
when you hear this, if you’re concerned and wondering why you may not be able
to get access to it, we need to make four calls, call your governor, call both
of your senators and call your Congressman and tell them that you want to know
why you’re not able to get access to a drug that doctors are telling you will
help end this and help us reduce the number of hospitalizations and reduce the
number of deaths. Urge them to read Dr. Harvey Rich’s study from Yale. He’s a
Yale professor of epidemiology. And from there you’ll find other studies.
Speaker 4: (17:31)
Yes. I wanted to ask how do people trust the data that they are looking at
every day? The numbers are so variable when you go to Johns Hopkins, CDC, which
divides COVID deaths in different categories related to pneumonia, other things
where we get the right information to make sense?
Simone Gold: (17:52)
So the only number that I think is worth paying any attention to, and even that
number is not so helpful is mortality because that’s a hard and fast number. So
the case number is almost irrelevant. And that’s because there’s a lot of
inaccuracies with the testing. And also even if the test is accurate, most
people are asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic. So it’s not that important to
know. So the case number, which you see rising all the time in the news is
basically irrelevant. And if you had told us a few months ago, that that was
the number that the media was going to go crazy over, we all would have just
laughed at that. I mean, that’s essentially herd immunity. There’s lots of
people out there who have tested positive without symptoms or with very mild
symptoms. So the only number that’s worth paying attention to is mortality.
Simone Gold: (18:33)
When you look at the mortality, this is a disease that takes, that
unfortunately kills our most frail members of society. People with multiple
comorbid conditions, specifically diabetes, obesity is a big one. We don’t talk
about that, but it is. It’s a fact. Coronary artery disease, severe coronary
artery disease, people like that. And also if you’re older, it’s a risk factor.
But the biggest risk factor is if you have comorbid conditions. If you’re young
and healthy, this is not … You’re going to recover. If you’re under 60 with no
comorbid conditions, it’s less deadly than influenza. This seems to come as
great news to Americans because this is not what you’re being told. I would say
the answer is it’s very difficult to get accurate numbers.
Speaker 5: (19:13)
This is [inaudible 00:19:13] of Breitbart News, if you had a message to Dr.
Anthony Fauci, what would you say to him?
Speaker 1: (19:18)
Listen to the doctors. [inaudible 00:19:21] the frontline doctors. Have a
meeting with the frontline doctors, and maybe I need to say that into the
microphone. My message to Dr. Anthony Fauci is to have a meeting with these
frontline doctors who are seeing real patients. They’re touching human skin.
They’re looking people in the eye, they’re diagnosing them and they’re helping
them beat the virus. They’re the ones who are talking to the patients, have
meetings with them and do it every single day and find out what they are
learning about the virus firsthand. And this is, and it’s important to
understand, we have doctors here who are not emergency room doctors. They’re
preventing patients from even hitting the emergency room. So if they’re only
listening to emergency room or ICU at the very tragic end of a person’s life
they’re not getting the full story. They need to come back in here the earlier
portion. And they also need to understand what the lockdown and the fears are
doing to patients around this country, because there are a lot of unintended
consequences, which the doctors can speak about.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (20:30)
Can I say something. My message to Dr. Anthony Fauci is when is the last time
you put a stethoscope on a patient? That when you start seeing patients like we
see on a daily basis, you will understand the frustration that we feel. You
need to start feeling for American people like we, the frontline doctors, feel.
I need to start realizing that. They are listening to you. And if they are
going to you, you got to give them a message of hope. Got to give them a
message that goes with what you already know that hydroxychloroquine works.
Speaker 6: (21:06)
I have a question for Dr. Warrior.
Simone Gold: (21:09)
Dr. Immanuel.
Speaker 6: (21:10)
Dr. Immanuel, okay. You mentioned before some remarkable results that you’ve
had treating your own patients. She said, I believe she said 300 patients.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (21:17)
Yes. Yes.
Speaker 6: (21:19)
Have you been able to publish your findings and results [inaudible
00:00:21:22].
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (21:22)
We’re working on publishing it right now. We’re working on that, but this is
what I’ll say. People like Dr. Samuel [inaudible 00:21:29] published the data.
And my question is, and? That will make you see patients. There’s no data
around the world. Yes. My data will come out. When that comes out. That’s
great. But right now people are dying. So my data is not important for you to
see patients. I’m saying that to my colleagues out there that talk about data,
data, data.
Speaker 6: (21:44)
If I can ask just one more question.
Simone Gold: (21:46)
May I just interject. There is a lot of [crosstalk 00:21:49] data on this. Not
every clinician needs to publish their data to be taken seriously. The media
has not covered it. There is a ton. I’ve got a compendium on
americasfrontlinedoctors.com, there is a compendium of all the studies that
work with hydroxychloroquine. The mortality rate was published in Detroit, less
than a … It was July 4th weekend. They published it. Mortality by half in the
critically ill patients, the patients who are get it early, it’s been estimated
that one half to three quarters of those patients, wouldn’t be dead. We’re
talking 70,000 to 105 … 70 to 100,000 patients would still be alive if we
followed this policy. There’s plenty of published data. [crosstalk 00:22:27].
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (22:26)
Even with Dr. Rich. Dr. Rich published data recently. So there’s a lot of data
out there. They don’t need mine to make those decisions.
Speaker 6: (22:34)
If I can ask one more question. There was a little girl who just a few days ago
[inaudible 00:22:37] otherwise healthy and it was concluded that she died of
COVID-19 so I was curious from your perspective, you feel that this little girl
possibly died from some other condition and it was attributed to COVID-19 or is
there some other reason why she [crosstalk 00:00:22:52].
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (22:52)
I will not. I will not be able to say that till I look at the little girl’s
history and whatever happened. I know I’ve taken care of a lot of family
members and I see a lot of children and they usually get mild symptoms, but I
cannot talk about kids that I have not looked at.
Dr. Bob Hamilton: (23:07)
What was the age of the child again?
Speaker 6: (23:10)
She was nine years old.
Dr. Bob Hamilton: (23:10)
Okay. So listen, there are children who are dying of this infection. And the
reality is that when they do die, they seem to have comorbidities. Really, you
have to kind of look at each individual case. Uniquely there have been a little
over 30 patients in the entire country, in the age category of 15 and below who
have died of COVID. Frequently they do have comorbidities like heart disease.
They have asthma, they have other pulmonary issues. So I don’t know, we don’t
know the answer to this nine year old girl, tragically. She passed, and she’s
no longer with us, but there’s probably, if you dig into it, there’s probably a
story behind it.
Speaker 1: (23:48)
Dr. Hamilton, have you seen any patients who are having adverse side effects
because schools have been closed, who have depression or suicide?
Dr. Bob Hamilton: (23:54)
I mean, I think that it is common knowledge that with the schools not being
open, when you think about what your experience in junior high and high school-
Dr. Bob Hamilton: (24:03)
… not being open. When you think about your experience in junior high and high
school, what do you think about? You think about parties and you think about
football games, socializing. Those are the things we think about. Those are all
being shut down, folks. Nobody is having fun anymore. And I will tell you that
these are critical years of life to be out mixing with other kids, other
people, and that has been shut down. So yes, there are lots of comorbidities
that go along with shutting down. We’re talking about anxiety, we’re talking
about depression, loneliness, abuse is happening, and kids who have particular…
Children who have special needs, kids are not doing well either. So, there is a
long list of complications that occur when you quarantine and lockdown people.
Speaker 7: (24:48)
So an extension to what you were just talking about, we hear all these studies
and all this polling that moms are afraid to go back to work because of letting
their children go to school, they shouldn’t go to school because then they’re
exposed, and if the moms go back to school, then the elderly grandparents,
they’re [crosstalk 00:25:04].
Dr. Bob Hamilton: (25:04)
Right, well, this is the big [crosstalk 00:25:05].
Speaker 7: (25:06)
Can you speak to that please?
Dr. Bob Hamilton: (25:07)
Sure. Yeah, this is a big issue because people are afraid not that their
children are going to get particularly ill, because I think they’re learning the
truth is that this infection is being tolerated well by children. But
certainly, they look at their environment, their particular unique family, and
I think in some situations that may be an appropriate fear. However, I do think
that as a general comment, a general rule through the country, kids can go back
to school. Maybe a few kids here and there, their living situation, who they’re
being cared for, that can be a potential problem. But again, for younger
children in particular, they’re not the ones passing on the disease to the
adults.
Speaker 7: (25:52)
Wouldn’t the hydroxychloroquine be…
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (25:52)
I’ll talk about that.
Speaker 7: (25:52)
Maybe Dr. Immanuel can speak to that, or somebody else.
Dr. Bob Hamilton: (25:53)
Well hydroxychloroquine, yeah. [crosstalk 00:25:56].
Speaker 7: (25:53)
In terms of as a prophylaxis.
Dr. Bob Hamilton: (25:53)
That can be done. Yes, that can be used. [crosstalk 00:26:06]
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (26:06)
We’re talking about, we can’t open our businesses. We can’t go to school and
parents are scared to get treated. And I personally, have put over a hundred
people on hydroxychloroquine prophylaxis. Doctors, teachers, people who are
health care workers, my staff, me, I see over 15 to 20, sometimes 20, 15, 10 patients
a day. I use a surgical mask. I’ve not been infected. Nobody I know has been
infected that’s around me. So this is the answer to this question. You want to
open schools, everybody get on hydroxychloroquine. That is the prevention for
COVID. One tablet every other week is good enough. And that is what we need to
get across to the American people. There’s prevention and there is cure. We
don’t have to lock down schools. We don’t have to lockdown our businesses.
There’s prevention, and there is cure. So instead of talking about a mask,
instead of talking about lockdowns, instead of talking about all these things,
put our teachers on hydroxychloroquine.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (26:59)
Put those that are high risk on hydroxychloroquine. Those that want it. If you
want to catch COVID, that’s cool, but you should be given the right to take it
and be prevented. So that’s the message. All this stuff that we’re putting
together, it’s not necessary because hydroxychloroquine has a prevention.
Hydroxychloroquine is a prevention for COVID.
Speaker 8: (27:17)
Earlier I heard you say that…
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (27:18)
Hydroxychloroquine.
Speaker 8: (27:21)
… hydroxychloroquine, that that drug was the cure.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (27:22)
Cure, mm-hm (affirmative).
Speaker 8: (27:25)
But you also said measured with zinc and other things.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (27:27)
Yes.
Speaker 8: (27:27)
And you guys also said that previous doctors have used it, but they’ve used it
in the wrong dosage. So I keep hearing the drug, but then what is the right
dosage. What is the right mixture?
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (27:39)
That you’re going to discuss with your doctor, but let [inaudible 00:03:43]
take that.
Speaker 9: (27:45)
Yeah, that’s a great question. Because the whole political situation has driven
the fear towards this drug. So let’s address that. This drug is super safe.
It’s safer than aspirin, Motrin, Tylenol. It’s super safe. All right. So what
the problem is in a lot of those studies, they did very, very high doses,
massive doses all through the country. They did the remaps study, the
solidarity trial. That was the world health organization trial, and also the
recovery trial. They use 2,400 milligrams in the first day. All you need is 200
twice a week for prophylaxis. They used massive toxic doses. And guess what
they found out? When you use massive toxic doses, you get toxic results. The
drug doesn’t work when you give toxic doses. It’s a very safe drug. It
concentrates in the lungs, 200 to 700 times higher in the lungs.
Speaker 9: (28:38)
It’s an amazing drug because in the bloodstream, you’re not going to get high
levels, but you get massive levels in the lungs. So you’re going to find
yourself, if you prophylax, that as soon as the virus gets there, it’s going to
have a hard time getting through because the hydroxychloroquine blocks it from
getting in. And then once it gets in, it won’t let the virus actually
replicate. Bring in zinc and zinc will mess up the copy machine called the
RDRP. So with the combination of drugs, it’s incredibly effective in the early
disease. By itself, it’s incredibly effective as a prophylaxis. Does that
answer to the question?
Simone Gold: (29:15)
Yeah. I want to emphasize on something that Dr. [inaudible 00:29:20] just said,
because I love the question. This is a treatment regimen that’s very simple,
and it should be in the hands of the American people. The difficult aspect of
this is that at the moment, because of politics, it’s being blocked from
doctors prescribing it, and it’s being blocked from pharmacists releasing it.
They’ve been empowered to overrule the doctor’s opinion. Why is this not over
the counter? As you can get it in much of the world and almost all of Latin
America, in Iran, in Indonesia, in Subsaharan Africa, you can just go and buy
it yourself. And the dose, my friends is 200 milligrams twice in a week and
zinc daily. That’s the dose. I’m in favor of it being over the counter. Give it
to the people. Give it to the people.
Moderator: (30:06)
We have two more, who can answer this question and they know this information.
Dr. James Todaro: (30:12)
Hi, Dr. James Todaro [inaudible 00:30:13]. I just want to add a couple of
comments to what Dr. Gold was saying. If it seems like there is an orchestrated
attack that’s going on against hydroxychloroquine it’s because there is. When
have you ever heard of a medication generating this degree of controversy? A 65
year old medication that has been on the World Health Organization’s safe,
essential list of medications for years. It’s over the counter in many
countries. And what we’re seeing is a lot of misinformation. So I coauthored
the first document on hydroxychloroquine as a potential treatment for
coronavirus. This is back in March and that kind of kicked off a whole series
of a storm on it. And since then, there’s been a tremendous amount of
censorship on doctors like us and what we’re saying. And a number of us have
already been censored. That Google document that I coauthored was actually
pulled down by Google. And this is after now, many studies have shown that it
is effective and it is safe. You still can’t read that article. And there’s
also this misinformation out there. And unfortunately, this has reached the
highest orders of medicine. In May there was an article published in The
Lancet. This is one of the world’s most prestigious medical journals in the
world. The World Health Organization stopped all their clinical trials on
hydroxychloroquine because of this study. And it was independent researchers
like us who care about patients, who care about the truth that dug into this
study and determined that it was actually fabricated data. The data was not
real. And we did this so convincingly that this study was retracted by The
Lancet less than two weeks after it was published. This is almost unheard of,
especially for study of this magnitude.
Dr. James Todaro: (31:44)
So I apologize to everyone for the fact that there is so much misinformation
out there, and it’s so hard to find the truth. And unfortunately, it’s going to
take looking at other places for the truth. That’s why we formed frontline
doctors here to try to help get the real information out there.
Speaker 10: (32:00)
What did you say your name was?
Dr. James Todaro: (32:01)
I’m James Todaro.
Moderator: (32:02)
Give your website.
Dr. James Todaro: (32:05)
Most of my thoughts, I actually publish on Twitter. Twitter has been great
lately. So, James Todaro, M D. T-O-D-A-R-O M-D but I also have a website
medicineuncensored.com, which contains kind of a lot of the information about
hydroxychloroquine I think is much more objective than what’s going on in other
media channels.
Speaker 10: (32:28)
One point, in terms of Twitter. That’s important because as I understand not
only from doctors, but from other people in the media, that YouTube has blocked
information specifically about hydroxychloroquine.
Dr. James Todaro: (32:42)
I’ll go ahead and address that real quickly. I would say Facebook and YouTube
have taken the most draconian measures to silence and censorship people. And
this is coming from the CEO of YouTube, as well as Mark Zuckerberg saying
anything that goes against what the World Health Organization has said is
subject to censorship. And we all know the World Health Organization has made a
number of mistakes during this pandemic. They have not been perfect by any
means. Twitter, although they have some flaws and faults and flag certain
content and stuff, they really still remain one of the freest platforms to
share dialogue, intelligent discussion regarding this information. And many of
us here today actually connected on social platform mediums like that.
Speaker 11: (33:21)
Could you talk about what you mentioned earlier about the medication and how
long it’s been around?
Dr. Joe Ladapo: (33:27)
Sure thing. I’m Dr. Joe. Ladapo. I’m a physician at UCLA and I’m a clinical
researcher also. And I’m speaking for myself and not on behalf of UCLA. So I
want to say that I’m thinking of the people who are behind the screens that are
watching what you guys were broadcasting. And I want to share with you because
there’s so much controversy and the atmosphere is so full of conflict right now
that what this group of doctors is trying to do fundamentally, is really to
bring more light to this conversation about how we manage COVID-19 and the huge
challenge. And that’s what this is ultimately about. And bringing light to
something means thinking more about trade offs, about one of my colleagues said
on unintended consequences. And I actually think that’s not even the right
word, the right word is unanticipated consequences. Really thinking about the
implications of the decisions we’re making in this really, really extraordinary
time that we’re in.
Dr. Joe Ladapo: (34:45)
So, I’m sure people are listening to some of the discussion about
hydroxychloroquine and wondering, what are these doctors talking about? And,
these are doctors that take care of patients, board certified, med school,
great med schools, all of that. How could they possibly be saying this? I watch
CNN and NBC, and they don’t say anything about this. And that’s actually,
that’s the point. There are issues that are moral issues, that really there
should be a singular voice. So for me, issues related to whether people are
treated differently based on their sex or race, or their sexual orientation. I
personally think those are moral issues and there’s only one position on those.
But COVID-19 is not a moral issue. COVID-19 is a challenging, complex issue
that we benefit from having multiple perspectives on. So it’s not good for the
American people when everyone is hearing one perspective on the main stations.
There’s no way that’s going to service. So, the perspective most people have
been hearing is that hydroxychloroquine doesn’t work. That’s the perspective
that most people have been hearing on the mainstream television.
Dr. Joe Ladapo: (36:03)
That’s the perspective that most people have been hearing on the mainstream
television, and I believe that perspective too, until I started talking to
doctors who would look more closely than some of the physicians behind me here,
who would look more closely at the data and at the studies.
Dr. Joe Ladapo: (36:17)
So it is a fact that several randomized trials have come out so far, that’s our
highest level of evidence, and have shown that hydroxychloroquine… Their
findings have generally been that there’s no significant effect on health
benefit. So, that’s a fact, that the randomized control trials have come out…
So far that have come out. In fact, there were two or three big ones that came
out over the last two weeks, [inaudible 00:36:44] Internal Medicine, New
England Journal of Medicine, and I think one other journal.
Dr. Joe Ladapo: (36:49)
It is also a fact that there have been several observational studies. These are
just not randomized controlled trials, but patients who are getting treated
with this medication that have found that hydroxychloroquine improves outcomes.
So both of those things are true. There’s evidence against it and there’s
evidence for it. It is also a fact that we are in an extraordinarily
challenging time. Given those considerations, how can the right answer be to
limit physician’s use of the medication? That can’t possibly be the right
answer. And when you consider that this medication before COVID-19 had been
used for decades, by patients with rheumatoid arthritis, by patients with
lupus, by patients with other conditions, by patients who were traveling to
West Africa and needed malaria prophylaxis, we’ve been using it for a long
time, but all of a sudden it’s elevated to this area of looking like some
poisonous drug. That just doesn’t make sense.
Dr. Joe Ladapo: (37:59)
Then when you add onto that the fact that we’ve had two of the biggest journals
in the world, New England Journal of Medicine, and Lancet, as my colleagues
say, retract studies that found, interestingly, that hydroxychloroquine harmed
patients. Both of these studies. They had to retract these studies, which really
is unheard of. That should raise everyone’s concern about what is going on. At
the very least, we can live in a world where there are differences of opinion
about the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine, but still allow more data to
come, still allow physicians who feel like they have expertise with it use that
medication, and still talk, and learn, and get better at helping people with
COVID-19.
Dr. Joe Ladapo: (38:50)
So why we’re not there is not good. It doesn’t make sense, and we need to get
out of there.
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (38:58)
Listen, let me just put a little bit of that. I have seen 350 patients and
counting. Put them on hydroxychloroquine. They all got better. This is what I
would say to all those studies, they had high doses, they were given to wrong
patients. I will call them fake science. Any study that says hydroxychloroquine
doesn’t work, is fake science and I want them to show me how it doesn’t work.
How is it going to work for 350 patients for me and they’re all alive, and then
somebody say it doesn’t work? Guys, all them studies, fake science.
Simone Gold: (39:30)
What was your question? Thank you.
Speaker 14: (39:31)
Last question.
Simone Gold: (39:31)
Yeah, last question.
Speaker 13: (39:35)
I’ve heard there’s an increase in anxiety, suicidal ideation, substance abuse,
and various mental health issues as a result of school closures and shutdowns.
Is it your recommendation that [inaudible 00:39:48] federal funding for
programs will help deal with those issues?
Simone Gold: (39:54)
Yeah, I don’t understand how you would go to that conclusion. If the problem
was that the schools are shut down, and it’s causing it, then we need to open
up the schools.
Speaker 14: (40:03)
[inaudible 00:40:03] mental healthcare [crosstalk 00:40:05].
Simone Gold: (40:06)
Yeah. I would go to the school. I would open up the schools, because the most
important thing for children is to socialize, and to be with other kids, and to
learn. Yeah. [crosstalk 00:40:14] Yeah. Let’s get kids back in school.
Speaker 14: (40:17)
You don’t believe that?
Simone Gold: (40:20)
Kids back in school. We’re in favor of kids back in school.
Speaker 15: (40:22)
Thank you everyone. [crosstalk 00:04:24]. Thank you very much. And we are going
to be going back live continuing our summit, so you can continue watching. Once
we get back, we may be running.
Speaker 16: (40:35)
Thank you so much. [inaudible 00:40:45].
Dr. Stella Immanuel: (40:38)
It’s fake science. [crosstalk 00:04:50]. It’s fake science.
Simone Gold: (40:50)
That’s right. I believe you. I believe you. [crosstalk 00:40:52].
Doctor 1: (40:54)
It’s more specialized, so I have to defer.
Speaker 18: (40:55)
You said that depression-
Doctor 1: (40:56)
That depression is caused by low zinc levels. When you go into a hospital
nowadays, they don’t test for those zinc levels. Low zinc levels are manifested
by loss of sense of smell, loss of taste. Why are these also symptoms of COVID,
right? COVID, loss of sense of smell, loss of taste, right? And the reason is
because zinc is the natural thing that used to fight the COVID. What happens is
the zinc stops RNA polymerase, and the hydroxy chloroquine allows the zinc to go
into the cells.
Speaker 18: (41:33)
I’m wondering-
Doctor 1: (41:33)
To stop the RNA polymerase-
Speaker 18: (41:35)
Because there was a-
Doctor 1: (41:36)
Hang on, hang on.
Speaker 18: (41:36)
It was implied that-
Doctor 1: (41:37)
Let me give you the science behind it. So if your lab is [crosstalk 00:41:41]…
I understand.
Speaker 18: (41:43)
Yeah.
Doctor 1: (41:43)
Let me explain it a little bit better. The zinc stops RNA polymerase, and it’s
used up by your cells in the normal fighting of COVID. So if you never took
hydroxychloroquine, you’d still be zinc depleted. We’re in a natural state of
zinc depletion in the United States, but the COVID decreases your zinc even
more, and you need it to fight off any virus. That’s why your mom always said,
“Take your zinc,” right?
Speaker 18: (42:04)
Is the problem with children on psych units that they have low zinc levels?
Doctor 1: (42:11)
No, no, no. We’re talking about the COVID and how that… [inaudible 00:06:13].
Speaker 18: (42:15)
Okay. My question was about if federal funds should be diverted to helping
therapists, social workers and other frontline workers to deal with the
psychological issues that were mentioned by your colleague, that shut downs in
the government and school closures cause an increase in suicidal ideation, and
substance abuse, and anxiety. So those environmental factors are what caused
those mental health issues. Doesn’t it stand to reason that then funds to help
those institutions deal with the problem should be receiving more funding?
Doctor 1: (42:47)
I’m going to defer to my psychiatrist colleague.
Speaker 18: (42:50)
He didn’t hear me ask the question. [crosstalk 00:42:51].
Doctor 1: (42:51)
First, we need to take care of the biological basis, which is the zinc, which
is the vitamin D, lack of vitamin D. We’re dumping our milk.
Speaker 18: (43:03)
Yeah, I don’t know about that.
Doctor 1: (43:04)
We’re dumping our milk [crosstalk 00:07:05]. We’re dumping our milk in the
manure pits right now. If we would get together-
Doctor 2: (43:09)
Yeah, that’s hard to believe.
Doctor 1: (43:10)
If we would get that to the kids out of school, that will be very helpful.
Speaker 18: (43:14)
Okay.
Doctor 1: (43:14)
So I’ll defer to my colleague.
Speaker 18: (43:17)
So my question, I still haven’t gotten a clear answer on it-
Doctor 2: (43:19)
I’ll try to answer. Public policy is not my expertise, but I can try.
Speaker 18: (43:23)
Oh no, it’s not really about… It’s not my expertise either, actually. But I was
wondering since your colleague said that as a result of school closures and
government shutdowns, which caused an increase in suicidal ideation, anxiety,
substance abuse, and a variety of other issues, I’m wondering if federal
funding should be diverted to frontline workers, social workers, mental health
therapists?
Doctor 2: (43:45)
The answer your question is this, I see it this way, harm has already come is
what we’re saying. So the answer to the question is, harm has already come.
What should we do about that harm? I don’t know the inner workings of the
government, but to say that harm has already come, and to say that we’re going
to do something about it, it makes sense. To me as a doctor, I think if we know
harm is coming, if you and I know we already got run over by a car, I think it
makes sense to let me go ahead and go to the hospital to get my-
Speaker 18: (44:10)
There’s a real lack of funding for people in my profession to be able to help
those kids and those adults.
Doctor 2: (44:12)
Yeah, I think it makes a lot of sense. So I’m going to just say, to me, it
makes sense, and I think it’s fair.
Speaker 18: (44:20)
I appreciate the well-rounded concern. It just kind of stops with concern and
it doesn’t continue into action. Congress might not, I’m not sure who he was,
maybe you could actually give [crosstalk 00:08:31].
